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  1. #1
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    Default 235/60 or 215/65, Altimax rt43 or Conti True contact

    Now that my PCV is updated, new suspension, new AC condenser and compressor are all taken care of and the CEL is finally off from my cam solenoids I am ready to start looking at new tires. Between now and august I will put 12-15000 miles on the car.

    My car has 160k+ on it and I am running Nokian wrg3 now in 235/60/16. I have not run the stock sized 215s in 8 years so I can't remember how they ride. I also don't want to spend the coin on new Nokians as I don't know how long the car will last before repairs don't justify ongoing ownership. I commute to Pittsburgh from NJ (800 miles/week) and want a tire that performs close to the Nokian in summer and winter weather but are affordable. I have narrowed it down to the Altimax and the Conti which are both highly rated.

    pluses and minuses on tire size and brand?

    Thanks!
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    How did you like the 235/60/16 size? Did they use more fuel or rub or anything? Just curious.
    TomK
    2006 xc70 Blue/tan 160,000 miles
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    I have TrueContact in my XC70 and RT43 in wife's V70, in stock sizes. Both are a very good tires, quiet, grippy, thread wear seems to be fine. This year we didn't have winter in Boston area, but what we had Conti were able to deal with. Of course, they are not a real winter tires like GIslaved Nordfrost or their General clone, but I was positively surprised and didn't even put Generals this winter.
    2002 V70 (sold)
    2005 XC70 (Telos Road took it. Did a chassis swap)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kutcht1 View Post
    How did you like the 235/60/16 size? Did they use more fuel or rub or anything? Just curious.
    TomK
    I don't know if they use more fuel or not. At total and full lock I occasionally get a tiny rub, but it only seems to happen in extreme situations. No regret on the tire size but I am looking to save a little money by using the stock size.

    Any comments on people who have used both and can voice an opinion on the comparison appreciated!
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    I have used both, not a lot different in my opinion. Both seem to do well in the rain, which is the top qualifier for an all season tire for me. They also last an above average length of time.

    Jesse
    2006 XC70 360,000KM, Hilton Tune, BadSwede Lift, Big Burly tires, totalled.

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    I've put 5,000 mi on a set of General Altimax HP in a 225/60 size. So far, very happy with no problems. They're quiet and smooth. They had a decent rebate available when I bought em and it came to about $400 total including install thru Walmart. These tires didn't get the best reviews for snow handling but a couple times last winter going up snowy mountain passes, the tires were up for the challenge and the car churned thru the snow like a tank.
    2007 XC70, 206,000 miles
    2002 V70XC, 130,000 miles, parts car

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    235/60 any day ... it transforms the car!

    I cannot comment on the brand - I had Yoko's in this size and they were a real pleasure
    Pierre

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    Quote Originally Posted by PierreC View Post
    235/60 any day ... it transforms the car!

    I cannot comment on the brand - I had Yoko's in this size and they were a real pleasure
    Agree 100% with either 225/60 or 235/60. Have to wonder what the engineering or marketing logic was for choosing 215/65s to begin with.

    Cheers,

    Bill
    Western Head, NS CDN

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    Narrower tire will give some better grip in snow etc. Maybe that is it, plus the 235's are a tight fit even though there is generally no issue. Sounds like the 235's are what I should stick with and I think I settled on the Altimax RT43's based on winter weather reviews.

    Still open to more opinions! If there is a better tire in the $100 range feel free to opine...
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    2007 2007 XC70, Barents Blue, Charcoal Leather 215k miles
    1978 Bitchin' Chevrolet Z28 Camaro - Fuel Injected 383ci SB Dyno'd at 452HP 462FT/LBs Torque
    My build thread: http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276139

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    Fuel economy and turning radius.
    A member on Swedespeed is running 215/75...more ground clearance .. I plan on right naming Nokia 215/75 all terrain truck tires... Longer lasting tire than the all season 215/65

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