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Originally Posted by jmoser
yeah mine too! I have to like really look deep for it. But does any members know how to fill the trans with ATF? Like the dipstick is way down there. I've flush auto trans for 850,S70 models but never got experience with the newer volvos.
Here's my experience:
I called Mobil customer service and they provided me with a phone number to a distributor in my area, who then gave me a phone number to a dealer close to home. They sold me 2 cases of Mobil ATF 3309 for 83.92, since the distributor had them in stock there was no shipping charge (extra $20/case).
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assemble the tools, as suggested before:
-Extra green clip and 2 o-rings
-drain pail
-9/16 or 3/4 hose, ( the opening in the radiator is 19mm or 3/4" but the return line is 13mm or just over 1/2" diameter, the 9/16 tube I had fit snug when I pushed it into the same depth as the return line goes), get about 4 ft long
-funnel with hose to refill trans oil
-Mobil ATF 3309 oil (12-18 qt) Herein referred to as "oil"
-stopwatch or clock
I started by removing the lower belly pan and removing the drain plug from the transmission (large brass colored bolt facing passenger side of car).
Remove transmission oil return line from top of Radiator by squeezing the green clip and pullin out on tubing, mine was stuck and I needed a small pry bar to get it out.
Insert proper diameter drain hose, make sure it fits tight, the flow is under low pressure and will force the hose out if not secure.
Refill the trans with 2 qt of oil. Start car and time how long it takes to get bubbles in hose (mine took 35 sec). I didn't like the sound that I heard when running it empty so on the following runs I stopped it before I got bubbles in the line (25 -30 sec).
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Refill trans again with 2 qt of oil and repeat process until satisfied with the color of the waste. In the pictures there is a tube of identical material filled with fresh oil to use as a reference control.
I missed getting pictures of the first few changes but here is the color of the waste oil after my 8 L flush
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10 L getting better
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12 L looking good still a little brown
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14 L (picture looks darker than 12 L)
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16 L I should stop here, No maybe one more go at it!!
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I should have stopped at 16 L, or check my waste tube, it got pushed out of the radiator housing. AAAAAAHHHHHHH why is there no oil moving in the waste tube????
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Well at 18 L I had a big mess to clean up but the oil looked as good as my control tube.
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remove waste tube and carefully reinsert oil line.
After adjusting the level and driving the car for an hour the fluid looks as dirty again as it did at the 8L flush, I guess there are more pockets of oil to flush out than this method is able to reach.
Here's what I suggest, the next time I do it I'm going to just change to 10 L and then adjust the level and drive the car for a bit. Then continue on with the process and flush out again until it's like the 18 L clarity. It'll probably take extra oil but save 2.5 L aside to do the final fill and adjustment.
p.s. I flushed the system with the last 4 L that I had and the fluid cleared up to about the 12 to 14 L clarity. Not as good as the 18 L but It'll have to do since I'm out of fresh oil.
Excellent Article, Gibbons.
What about the filter? Do you replace it as well?
I don't believe there is a filter.
Bill
Is the method of flushing described in these posts as effective as the flushing method used by shops that have a machine? Are there other differences?
Thanks!
I believe the method described by Gibbons, done carefully, is functionally equivalent to a flush using a machine. It certainly worked well for me.
Bill
In information I have seen it mentions moving the gear selector through all positions. Does anyone know more about this?
Yes, It is a good idea to try to move the gear selector. From my observations with the flushing pictures, IF I had tried to move the selector I may have had a better flush, but it could be done if you watch the drain hose and try to do it in the 30 sec time frame while the oil is pumping out.
Well I did the Tranny flush today ( 55,900 miles ) Big thanks to Gibbons and Texascanuk for the tips and advice. I think the hardest part of the job was getting the funnel into the dip stick tube to replace the fluid. Mu old longtime Transmission fill funnel tip was to large to fit inot the dipstick tube and I had to go out and get a smaller funnel to fit the tube. then trying to actually work that funnel down ther and get it in was a big time knuckle banger. Why the Swedes didn't extend that Dipstick tube is beyond me. :confused:
Next mission is Window tint......
I have really been enjoying this forum Thanks to all who make it work..... :)
MY 2001 V70XC
White with maybe Oak :confused: not sure of what the Volvo color is? interior.
did my transmission fluid flush following Gibbons and Texascanuk's advice, on my 2003 V70 2.4T, works out great, big thanks for the great job!
consider the alternative Volvo's 4x price on material + labor...
Two things I learnt:
- you would be better off to get a aluminium washer for the tranny drain plug.
- I did not fine the torque spec for the plug, would be nice if some one know and post to this thread !
- 3/4 ID tube works better for me, so you can clamp on the cooler outlet (instead of inserting), so you will not have to worry about the tube slip out for potential mess.
Thanks to Gibbons and Texascanuk!
shuv70