Phillips bulbs!

[sendwongy1]

Hey guys,

I know that there have been a number of posts with regard to this topic. But there are a few questions that I need some advice on.

Firstly, I have been reading through the old posts with regard to this topic but there still isn't a comparison between the Phillips Vision plus and the Phillips Blue vision bulbs. I am thinking of going towards the Vision Plus as it gives out more light but the Blue vision seems to look more like xenon lights which I don't mind in term of the cool factor.

So has anyone installed the Phillips blue vision bulbs? Are they a lot better than the stock volvo bulbs? Do the bulbs give out a clear blue tint white light? WHats the difference between the Phillips vision plus and blue vision? Is it just the bluish white beam colour and light intensity? Or are they two completely different bulbs?

I am also thinking of changing all the headlight bulbs (including high bea and fog lights) but I am not sure with the config. I know the the main bulbs are H7's and the fogs are H1's but according to the manual the high beams are HB 3, while powerbulbs only show the Phillips Blue Vision H3's. Are HB 3 and H3's the same? Also are the blue vision sidelights (W5W) the same as the 5W W2.1x9.5d in the manual (Art can you confirm this)?

Finally will the Phillips Silver vision indicators lights fit the XC. Phillips dont seem to have a config for this. According to the manual the side lights are 21W BaU 15d.

Thanks for you help guys

Regards

Eugene

[Gundo]

Blue = Rice
http://www.ipdusa.com/Images/products/FrontWheelDrive/h7bulb.jpg


No two ways about it.

Go with Vision Plus - many happy converts here

Mains bulbs are H7, Fogs are H1. Don't waste your money on the high beams, they are already pretty bright.

If you really want the high beam, it is an HB3 (aka 9005), and is $24 at
IPD USA (http://www.ipdusa.com/ProductsList.aspx?subSubCategoryID=753)

[wills]

Check out ipd (http://ipdusa.com)

They have a nice bulb upgrade that might help you.

[1Lieutenant]

Has anyone used Sylvania SilverStars?  They have a $10 rebate/pair.

Steve

[dmarcus48]

Anyone know of a source for these bulbs?

[Hiro's XC]

The silver stars are real nice, PEP Boys sells them along with most high-end stero shops. I have the sylvania cool blues, yep blue tint on the buld, crystal white light, much better than stock. $15 a piece. As good as the $75 PIAAs.

Jason

[Gundo]

Silver Stars are not available in H7 for low beam, but are available in 9005 for high beam.

check out Sylvania Silverstars (http://orderxenarc.sylvania.com/orderxenarc/productthumbnails.asp?CId=%7BDD402A43%2DE69B%2D472 4%2D9601%2D73C279E173B2%7D&NC=221200393041)

[sendwongy1]

Hey guys,

I was wondering if any of you have photos of the phillips vision plus bulbs installed. Like pictures of the headligths turned on. Is the light beam pure white. Will it be too glary for oncoming drivers.

kind regards

Eugene

[littlewaywelt]

How hard is it to change the bulb on the 01xc's.  I have to admit that I am not mechanically incline.  I can change the tires and verify all the idiot fluids (oil, washer, etc , http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ) but that's about it.  The bulbs seem like a pretty cheap mod that could really improve vision.  Please forgive my ignorance, but will I actually be able to see farther or wider, or is it just to make the lights look cool?

[Ron3KL]

Hi Eugene,

I checked out the Silver Vision globes about a year ago. Yes they will fit BUT they cost AUD$37 EACH as far as I remember. That's a lot of money to get the cool factor for 5W indicator globes.

I'm still thinkin' about it tho' http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[Art]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sendwongy1 @ Feb. 18 2003,20:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey guys,

I know that there have been a number of posts with regard to this topic. But there are a few questions that I need some advice on.

Firstly, I have been reading through the old posts with regard to this topic but there still isn&#39;t a comparison between the Phillips Vision plus and the Phillips Blue vision bulbs. I am thinking of going towards the Vision Plus as it gives out more light but the Blue vision seems to look more like xenon lights which I don&#39;t mind in term of the cool factor.

So has anyone installed the Phillips blue vision bulbs? Are they a lot better than the stock volvo bulbs? Do the bulbs give out a clear blue tint white light? WHats the difference between the Phillips vision plus and blue vision? Is it just the bluish white beam colour and light intensity? Or are they two completely different bulbs?

I am also thinking of changing all the headlight bulbs (including high bea and fog lights) but I am not sure with the config. I know the the main bulbs are H7&#39;s and the fogs are H1&#39;s but according to the manual the high beams are HB 3, while powerbulbs only show the Phillips Blue Vision H3&#39;s. Are HB 3 and H3&#39;s the same? Also are the blue vision sidelights (W5W) the same as the 5W W2.1x9.5d in the manual (Art can you confirm this)?

Finally will the Phillips Silver vision indicators lights fit the XC. Phillips dont seem to have a config for this. According to the manual the side lights are 21W BaU 15d.

Thanks for you help guys

Regards

Eugene[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Eugene,

This link (http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/bulbs/blue/blue.html) should put the issue of blue bulbs to rest.

As for your question relating to the Bluevision sidelights and Silvervision indicators, you shouldn&#39;t have any problem fitting them to the XC. As a matter of fact, I&#39;ll even give you my packaged set of 5W Bluevisions if you&#39;d like to have them. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Here&#39;s a pic showing Guchi&#39;s Silvervision retrofit.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Rally/5292/WhiteWinker1.jpg
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Rally/5292/WhiteWinkerFront1.jpg

[1Lieutenant]

Sylvania and Osram are now one and the same company. &nbsp;I have found a link in the UK that sells Osram Silver Stars in H7 size and will ship to the US. &nbsp;Total cost about &#036;47.00 per pair. &nbsp;I doubt that these will be acceptable for the rebate.

http://www.edirectory.co.uk/pf/pages/moreinfoa.asp?recordid=852435

I have just ordered a pair and will let you know how things progress.

Steve

[Art]

Here&#39;s a followup on my one year experience with Phillip&#39;s Vision + bulbs. Even though I noticed a nice improvement in performance over the stock H7&#39;s, both V+ bulbs have now burned out within a month apart of each other. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

I&#39;ve now made the conversion back to the stock Osrams and will continue to do so. Just something to think about for those of you that are considering the switchover. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif

[wiz]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Art @ Mar. 01 2003,12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Even though I noticed a nice improvement in performance over the stock H7&#39;s[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Art, can you expand on the improvement? Are these bulbs brighter, better cut-off, illumination disperses better? It seems to me that the stock bulbs are actually pretty good, a bit on the yellow side maybe, but apart from fog, they do a more than adequate job.

I live in a large metropolis, streets are generally well lit, so maybe I&#39;m not noticing things that are obvious in poorly lit areas... http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif

[Hiro's XC]

Art,

Did you touch the bulbs accidentialy when installing them. They should last for years. FWIW the Silver Stars or whatever they are called last about as long as a match. I know a dealer that is getting tons of be-backs on the short life. By that I mean 1-3 months&#33;&#33;&#33; The old addage, something like burn twice as bright.....

Jason

[sendwongy1]

Hey Art,

Thanks for the offer. But if I do decide to get my bulbs from power bulbs I think I get a free set of side lights with my order. But reading through your second post has made me think twice on whether I should change my bulbs to the V+.

Have any of you fellow xcer&#39;s experienced blown out bulbs with your aftermarket V+ or other brand bulbs?

Kind regards

Eugene

[1Lieutenant]

Do you think the Osram Silver Stars will have the same longevity as the stock Osram bulb? &nbsp;Is the stock Osram bulb of a special long lived variety? &nbsp;

I just ordered two sets of the H7 Silver Stars for my XC and my wife&#39;s Lexus.

Even if they only last a year, &#036;40.00/car for increased vision is well worth it. &nbsp;HID systems, if available, cost about &#036;500-800. &nbsp;It takes a lot of replacement bulbs to equal this outlay. &nbsp;Maybe the time to rethink my DRLs. &nbsp;

Steve &nbsp;(sorry for the rambling reply)

[Art]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Art, can you expand on the improvement? Are these bulbs brighter, better cut-off, illumination disperses better? It seems to me that the stock bulbs are actually pretty good, a bit on the yellow side maybe, but apart from fog, they do a more than adequate job.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Wiz,

The light output from the VP bulbs is slightly whiter and brighter than that of the stock bulbs, particularly noticeable when driving around with one of each. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

The beam pattern is also wider with a sharper defined upper cutoff allowing for better illumination of road signs and obstacles.

True enough, the stock H7&#39;s are premium bulbs in their own right, but I certainly wouldn&#39;t hesitate ordering another set of VP&#39;s with some assurance that they would last longer. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Art,

Thanks for the offer. But if I do decide to get my bulbs from power bulbs I think I get a free set of side lights with my order. But reading through your second post has made me think twice on whether I should change my bulbs to the V+. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Eugene,

My own experience with VP has got me wondering if mine could just be an isolated case of a bad set of bulbs. It would prove to be helpful if anyone else has gone through a set just as quick.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Art,

Did you touch the bulbs accidentialy when installing them. They should last for years. FWIW the Silver Stars or whatever they are called last about as long as a match. I know a dealer that is getting tons of be-backs on the short life. By that I mean 1-3 months&#33;&#33;&#33; The old addage, something like burn twice as bright.....

Jason[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Jason,

Short of wearing latex gloves, I took extreme care when installing the VP bulbs. This is what has got me perplexed. Dealing with the tight corners of the engine compartment, I made sure that contact was never made at anytime during the procedure. I&#39;m wondering if the DRL&#39;s are somehow shortening the lifespan of the bulbs. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you think the Osram Silver Stars will have the same longevity as the stock Osram bulb? Is the stock Osram bulb of a special long lived variety? [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Steve,

I&#39;d be interested in hearing your feedback on the Silverstars. Apparently, they&#39;re advertised as having a comparable lifespan as the current H7&#39;s. From what I understand, the European versions are clear glass whereas the N/A bulbs are tinted slightly blue. Price is also similar to that of the VP bulbs.

[Ron3KL]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Art @ Mar. 02 2003,02:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here&#39;s a pic showing Guchi&#39;s Silvervision retrofit.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I&#39;m surprised at how orange Guchi&#39;s indicators remain. &nbsp;Pictures of other vehicles, such Nissan Silvia, etc that I have seen show no orange at all.

[1Lieutenant]

Just installed the Osram H7 SilverStars. &nbsp;They arrived in a timely fashion from Autostylin, LTD UK (see my previous post for link) &nbsp;The bulbs are clear rather than the slight blue/purple tint of the Sylvania SilverStars.

I was VERY sure to NOT touch the glass of the bulb and even cleaned them again with an alcohol wipe prior to install. &nbsp;Hopefully this will ensure a long life.

The greatest difficulty was in removing the plug from the bulb. &nbsp;Serious friction fit&#33; &nbsp;Once remove, it went easily. &nbsp;It is not dark yet, so I will update once they have been used.

Steve

[wiz]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Art @ Mar. 02 2003,08:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The light output from the VP bulbs........[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Thanks for the description, Art. Waiting with interest to be illuminated by Steve&#39;s illumination experience... http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[1Lieutenant]

Just tried out the SilverStars.

Light output is significantly greater than the original H7s. &nbsp;It is much whiter, but &nbsp;does NOT look like HID bulbs. &nbsp;I really don&#39;t think this is a negative, just an observation.

Steve

[rosamila]

Just put in the Philips Vision Plus, and happy with the result.
I ended up picking up a set from:

PowerBulbs (http://www.powerbulbs.com/index.htm)

Turns out they were a few bucks less then the other distributors including shipping, and they arrived from the UK within the promised time. &nbsp; http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[sendwongy1]

Hey Art,

Just with regard to your bulbs burning out. My stock H7 bulbs have just burned out today and the car is about 11 months old with 32,000km on. I have ordered some phillips blue visions for the xc and also ordering some vision plus for my 850R. I hope to change the narva artic blues on my 850 with the vision plus and replaces the xc&#39;s fogs with the narva bulbs.

post photos and results when I receive and exchange the bulbs.

regards

Eugene

[Art]

Good luck with the Vision + units Eugene. Hope you get much longer use out of them than I did with mine. &nbsp;http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Look forward to you posting your results and photos. &nbsp;http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif