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Tamarillo
06-28-2015, 09:03 PM
Hi, mechanic gave my 2002 a good service, flushed auto (had to pay NZ$100 for Toyota fluid - US$60), fully synthetic engine oil, checked cambelt had been done, checked whole car over etc and found leaky turbo, quite a bit of oil getting thrown out.

1. What type of turbo is it so I can quote it?
2. Who is best source of replacement? I am in NZ so need to weigh up costs of freighting a replacement against reconditioning this unit here - will get some idea of reconditioning cost once you kind folk tell me what it is I am asking about!

Bought it cheap with known oil leak so happy to get it fixed - better than engine problem!
:confused:

Antherzoll
06-28-2015, 09:36 PM
Just needs to be rebuilt.

Mitsubishi TD04L-14T
Requires the TD04 superback rebuild kit (http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/search.aspx?find=411-02013-004)


VIDEO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8_IfzAL0M

Tamarillo
06-28-2015, 09:49 PM
Just needs to be rebuilt.

Mitsubishi TD04L-14T

VIDEO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8_IfzAL0M

KIT:
http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/turborebuildkitgenuinemitsubi****d04flatback-1.aspx

Thank you Antherzoll. Will check out local rebuild turbo - sometimes we get quoted stupid amounts here being a little island and often I can get new things from states cheaper than rebuilds here - BUT will find out more.
Theres no smoke from exhaust and it feels likes its present and accounted for.

Antherzoll
06-28-2015, 09:59 PM
TD04 turbos are quite common on Subarus. While the turbine and compressor housings may be different, internally they are the same. You may find the rebuild cheaper than expected.

Tamarillo
06-28-2015, 10:08 PM
Local turbo shop who rebuild nationwide quotes NZ$500 approx (around US$400) to rebuild assuming no other parts are needed! That is NOT including labour to get it out of car. No wonder we just but new things!

SO who is best supplier? theres a few on eBay but any recommendations - might be that for same money I can get a new one.

Or i might just get that kit in and do it myself - I suspect it would be a lesser sort of rebuild than local turbo shop would do but maybe enough.

Antherzoll
06-28-2015, 10:30 PM
I wouldn't expect it to be a lesser rebuild, if you scroll down the page Kinugawa supplies a genuine Mitsubishi super back kit if you're worried about quality parts. The only thing I can see the shop doing is balancing after the rebuild, which shouldn't be an issue if you mark the alignment of turbine and compressor wheels before removal and install in the same position.

Kinugawa doesn't sell the stock turbo for the XC70, but you can always upgrade :).

https://www.google.ca/search?q=MHI+turbo+New+Zealand&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=7tmQVdavEsK7-AG8oKvoCA

Tamarillo
06-28-2015, 11:00 PM
Thanks for heads up on this, will look into it.

How long for home mechanic to get turbo out and back in? 2 hours each way?


I wouldn't expect it to be a lesser rebuild, if you scroll down the page Kinugawa supplies a genuine Mitsubishi super back kit if you're worried about quality parts. The only thing I can see the shop doing is balancing after the rebuild, which shouldn't be an issue if you mark the alignment of turbine and compressor wheels before removal and install in the same position.

Kinugawa doesn't sell the stock turbo for the XC70, but you can always upgrade :).

https://www.google.ca/search?q=MHI+turbo+New+Zealand&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=7tmQVdavEsK7-AG8oKvoCA

Tamarillo
06-28-2015, 11:49 PM
Kinugawa doesn't sell the stock turbo for the XC70, but you can always upgrade :).

https://www.google.ca/search?q=MHI+turbo+New+Zealand&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=7tmQVdavEsK7-AG8oKvoCA

Sorry that link doesn't work at my end, Google takes over and gives me page of listing.
Is their a particular upgrade your pointing to?

If I'm having rebuilt or replaced what spec am I looking for as giving bit more power but let's for forget it's a wagon on high profile 16 inch tyres!
A bit more boost but without introducing problems, excessive lag, huge gas bills, strain on old engine etc.

Antherzoll
06-29-2015, 04:58 AM
http://www.wothrline.com/Cars_engine/HW/turbocharger.htm

Tamarillo
06-29-2015, 01:23 PM
http://www.wothrline.com/Cars_engine/HW/turbocharger.htm
Thanks, think I'll stick to standard!

tmcmilli
06-29-2015, 06:59 PM
When my turbo was leaking oil in my 2002 V70 XC, and the mechanic informed me I needed a new/rebuilt turbo, I shopped around and somehow I found a small company in Ohio, USA that sells rebuild kits and rebuilt turbos including ones for Volvos.

It was a LOT cheaper than any other supplier I found where I could verify that it was the exact replacement for my car. And I can report no problems at all so far running Mobil 1 synthetic with the rebuilt turbo, now with about 35K miles on it.

The company is XSBoost. The price is now $500 which includes the $100 core charge and free shipping within the USA. That's $400 after the core charge refund, which I think is EXTREMELY reasonable. I recall that I paid $450 ($350 after core charge refund) back in about March 2014. Here is a link:

http://www.xsboostturbochargers.com/products/volvo-v70-s60-2-4-2001-2004-oem-turbocharger-td04hl-13t

Although the quoted price includes free shipping, I would not be surprised if you had to pay some shipping cost, i.e. the difference between domestic US shipping and international shipping. But at $500 including the core charge you could assess whether or not it's worth it to pay the return shipping cost of the old turbo to the US to receive the $100 core charge refund, or to just keep the old turbo.

Hope this helps,
Tom

Tamarillo
07-08-2015, 12:58 PM
Cost me NZ $900 for rebuild and $500 labour to get it out and in.
Shaft had ring worn in it so new shaft and impeller at $250.
We get stung down here, I should have bought a good replacement new.
Nz$900 is about us$600.
Grrrrrrrrr.

Antherzoll
07-08-2015, 04:02 PM
Why buy new? Would you have done the replacement yourself? If they rebuilt the CHRA and replaced the turbine/shaft it's as good as new (beside the CBV which is a $25 diaphragm that should have been replaced when on the bench.

The replacement you would have purchased would most likely be a rebuilt or an aftermarket for that price. I've heard of issues with aftermarket (not kinugawa) turbine and compressor housings splitting due to poor casting, but this has also happened on some OE application.

Tamarillo
07-08-2015, 10:35 PM
Why buy new? Would you have done the replacement yourself? If they rebuilt the CHRA and replaced the turbine/shaft it's as good as new (beside the CBV which is a $25 diaphragm that should have been replaced when on the bench.

The replacement you would have purchased would most likely be a rebuilt or an aftermarket for that price. I've heard of issues with aftermarket (not kinugawa) turbine and compressor housings splitting due to poor casting, but this has also happened on some OE application.
Fair call. I do prefer having own original properly rebuilt and these guys are very well known and trusted.