Transfer case

[Eric]

Has anyone heard of a transfer case going out on the XC70.  I talked to a Volvo mechanic and he referenced some issues with the transfer case and an $8K repair cost. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif

[Hiro's XC]

I have heard of no issues with them, even on modified cars. Now if you run off size tires for any amount of time you will be having issues. And $8K includes the drive shafts and a new transmission. Installed.

Jason

[Stu in Oregon]

Don't be scared. The only real issue as Hiro said is if you run tires of differing diameters. My dealer has replaced several they said but only on cars where the owner replaced two intead of four tires at once. Of course that means that they were not rotating in the first place if their tires wore at different rates. (The new Haldex units do not suffer this risk) I have heard of some German cars who spend lots of time on the autobahn having issues because the sustained high speeds caused fluid failure, but that does not apply to us in North America, unless you are insane http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif

[wiz]

Stu is right - you should not be worried. Take care of your tires and rotate every service and you should be OK. There are thousands of Volvo XCs out there with perfectly functioning transfer cases. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Low Tide]

Let's restate the most important point here...just to bang it good and hard into the thread...

ITS ONLY A "potential" PROBLEM on MY01 and early MY02 (pre-haldex) v70xc cars with Volvo's VC AWD unit.

Late 02 v70xc and all subsequent XC70's (MY03 and later) all have the Haldex system in them.  Running differering tire dimensions/wear levels is not an issue.

[wiz]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Low Tide @ June 11 2003,05:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Late 02 v70xc and all subsequent XC70&#39;s (MY03 and later) all have the Haldex system in them.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yes? &nbsp;That is news to me. &nbsp;I thought Haldex started with MY2003. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif

[Hiro's XC]

I have to disagree with you on that. I saw and looked at a bunch of 02&#39; cars built as late as July, when they shut down and none of them had the Haldex. That came with the engine displacement increase in 03&#39;.

Jason

[Low Tide]

Sorry...on this one I have firsthand experience/evidence,

Late (read the last of the..) MY 02&#39;s built after the factory shutdown had Haldex. I looked at one at the dealer- a MY02 v70xc with the old 197HP engine(in Silver). Test drove this car and the demo XC90&#39;s (Ash Gold loaded T6 and Black 2.5T) when I decided to order my OSD car in November 2002. In fact, I was not able to drive the MY03 XC70 until late Jan when the dealer received their first unsold XC70&#33;

At the time, the sales manager (who is actually knowledgable and a straight shooting guy) made a big deal about the Haldex changeover... he showed me the specs for the new units. There were not many made, but they DO exist&#33;

I was also under the impression that not all the sleds were vacated during the shutdown. &nbsp;Volvo has some storage space for sleds on the upper levels of the transport train remember? &nbsp;They can retool/re-task a robot and change parts bins with sleds loaded and on the line... if I only had pictures...

[littlewaywelt]

i assume that a &quot;sled&quot; is a vehicle on the production line.
correct?
if so, that&#39;s pretty cool. &nbsp;I imagine several xc70ers with MY02s will be checking the manufacture date.

[Low Tide]

&quot;Sled&quot; is the thing the car is made on. Its coded with the final specs and is referred to by the assembly workers and the computer system as the vehicle is being put together. Its VERY cool&#33; The sleds move through the buildings... on these tracks that at certain points are picked up and moved up and down by elevators. There are cars on the main line and sleds above during certain parts of assembly.

When a model year switches over... there are stages. The main shutdown is to retool the presses, change software/assembly protocal, swaps major parts bins for new products. Small parts bin changes and assembly method adaptation are not uncommon DURING a model year.

The way the cars are put together, significant changes CAN occur during the run... it&#39;s the unitized way certain things are put into the car... The drivetrain is assembled separately and then mated strategically with its body unit later.... the two are on different tracks that converge at the appropriate time for example. (Although the body is always on the Sled with VIN id tags. So, its possible for a part from a &quot;new&quot; blue Volvo bin- recycled plastic of course- (say this part is Haldex units) to be put into a 02 drivetrain with an 02 engine and an 03 exhaust system.

If you don&#39;t believe me, you&#39;ll just have to visit the factory and buy an OSD car so you can see what I&#39;m talking about&#33;

I do not know WHICH production date vehicles have the Haldex units. Ask Volvo- they can probalby look it up via the VIN. Unfortunately, I donot recall looking at the production month on theunit I test drive. Next time I&#39;m in, I&#39;ll ask about it. The one I test drove was a brand new service loaner being put into the fleet.

[wiz]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (littlewaywelt @ June 11 2003,06:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I imagine several xc70ers with MY02s will be checking the manufacture date.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Very interesting. Not me though - I know mine was made in April&#33; http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Hiro's XC]

I stand corrected. That is suprising knowing Volvo. BMW? VW sure. I know our old 325 convertible had a power steering pump that was not used for almost 3 years by the time they built our car. They came across a shipment of them that was mislabled in the factory and said &quot; what the heck&quot; and promply installed them. That may be a small part but it is NLA (no longer available) and the ZF unit cost &#036;400 to replace it. PLUS the brakets were different, they (4 of them) cost &#036;700&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; &nbsp; http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif &nbsp;http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif &nbsp;http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/crazy.gif &nbsp;http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif &nbsp;http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif

That said this could cause some headaches for the unknowing owners of these cars down the road when they go to get parts for repair and the ge the old ones because they did not know which system they had.

Jason

[pico de luuks]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wiz @ June 11 2003,11:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (littlewaywelt @ June 11 2003,06:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I imagine several xc70ers with MY02s will be checking the manufacture date.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Very interesting. Not me though - I know mine was made in April&#33; http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
02 V70XC build in april, euro specs: no haldex either http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif
I wonder if I had ordered it with DSTC it would have been with haldex as wel.... Not sure if DSTC came in combo with the VC AWD?

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[wiz]

pico LT is saying that the only MY2002 cars with Haldex were some made after the summer factory shutdown. So people who bought an &#39;02 in Nov/Dec 2002 or later are the ones who might have the electronic AWD. &nbsp;Some of those cars may be in Europe &amp; some here in the U.S.

[pico de luuks]

I ordered mine late jan or early feb 02. I was not aware at the time of the change over to the Haldex system for the new MY. If so, I might have delayed my delivery date.
What I was wondering was: When volvo offered DSTC on the XC, was that just for the new Haldex cars (and thus later delivery) or also on the VC AWD? Anybody knows?
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[if so I&#39;m gonna regret my decision to skip DSTC even more&#33;&#33;&#33;]
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[HeadXC]

I was told by Volvo Canada that MY02 would not have haldex as if they did they would replace my 02 with the 02 with Haldex. My 02 was produced in Februay. I must find that letter and would love to see further proof of this in a MY02. It could alos be that Canada did not bring in this late production.
Any other canucks got an 02 with Haldex??

[wiz]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (pico de luuks @ June 11 2003,08:03)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I was not aware at the time of the change over to the Haldex system for the new MY. If so, I might have delayed my delivery date.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
pico we knew about the Haldex system when we bought ours in August of last year. But we needed a car pretty quickly and we got &#036;6.4K off the sticker so we bought then and we haven&#39;t regretted it.

If you look after the car it will last a long time, just as the electronic AWD cars will. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif