Possible Rust - Already ?!?!

[krs]

I just finished washing my 04 XC (August) and noticed that on the hood of the car, there are many little spots of rust (spot size maybe the size of a pin).  They seem to disappear if a rub hard enough but not sure if this is good for the finish.

I would like to know if anyone has experienced this and what was done to remedy.

Should I have Volvo fix this ? will go to garage next week to have them also look at power steering leak ! http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[AWD*V70XC]

Krs you failed to mention if after rubbing you took away any of the roof/paint surface. If you didn't then you have had iron filings dropped/thrown/placed/scattered over the car in which case they will rust and cause a rustmark on the paint work, which will disappear with some elbow grease but this has nothing to do with the way the car was made. If it is a car fault, you should tell us when your car was made as it could be a faulty batch of spraying which could be on a few cars. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif

[dgriffith]

I also get these little spots on my 2002 V70 (built in January 02). I get them all over my car though (on the sides, on the back tailgate). How do you find out if your car could be part of a bad spray batch.

dgriffith

[gibbons]

AWD*V70XC speaks wisdom.  I get these too, on the hood of my white 04 XC, silver Ford truck (been doing it for 12 years), on the white Subaru, and got lots of them on my white Accord.  All of them were surface.  I think they come off all kinds of stuff.  When I got my truck that had been rail shipped, it was covered with them from "rail scale".

They make things called "clay blocks" that are made to remove suface globs.  I think Maguires makes them, or you can get them at that web joint called Gratiots(?), they make all kinds of cleaners.

In my dumb opinion, not having seen your car, you can relax!

[AWD*V70XC]

For example, Toyota made a mid size panel van for the European market, after about two or three years ALL the vans broke out in rust spots and they were about the size of your fist.

The rumour going around was Toyota was making their vans out of recycled coke cans (when Coke was in tin cans). So many people complained, that Toyota in Japan looked into this matter and found out that ALL the vans were made in Ireland. Now Toyota have only one plant in Ireland, so they looked at all the vans that came off the line, not all of them were rusting, yet all were made from the same metal. They knew they had a problem but could not put a finger on it.

Over time they checked the weather patterns and found out that the affected vans were the only vans affected if the wind was blowing in a certain direction, they drew the wind on a map and "blew" it into the plant and found the answer.

About 1 mile away was a cement making factory, producing wet concrete for building and the dust particles from the cement (which is corrosive) were finding their way into the spray booth and landing in the bare metal before spraying and in time would react with the wet spray paint and then two years after production it would erupt, thus causing a mass breakout of rust spots on the bodywork.

Very interesting, very true and very frightening given the amount of factories we all have in out wind range.  http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif A lesson that to this day, I watch were I park my cars in case something blows or drops or drips on my car. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif

[venom_99]

I'm with gibbons.  Here in Detroit, we have a lot of "industiral fallout", which can be described as tiny little particles in the paint that you can hardly see with the naked eye.  A clay bar will remove these very easily.  After I clay my car, the particles are all over the horizontal surfaces of the car within only a few weeks.  Chaulk it up to American manufacturing, I guess...

Personally, the Mothers and Meguiars clay bars are horrible -- they leave streaks in the paint that are very difficult to remove.  I use no other brand other than the blue bar from Clay Magic.  I don't know which retail stores carry it, so I purchase it online from their website.  It is a great product.

[coastal]

Same here, I get them too but only on the rear tailgate for some reason.

And it's definitely not rust because the rear tailgate is fiberglass.  http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Raynald]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (coastal @ Feb. 21 2004,07:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">... And it&#39;s definitely not rust because the rear tailgate is fiberglass. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Is it really? http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif I&#39;m stunned... http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/exclamation.gif

[geo]

Have you been parked near a foundry (up to 1/2 a mile if the wind is right) or a commercial machine shop?
Or the old favourite near someone angle grinder?

[wgriswold]

This is very interesting to me. &nbsp;I live in lake Tahoe, one of the enviornmentally cleaner areas in the US. &nbsp;I get small rust colored specks on the surface on my cars every fall. &nbsp;They are from light red to almost black in color and from 1/32 to 1/8 in diameter. &nbsp;I have thought that the mistletoe infestion in the pine trees near my driveway were shedding something. &nbsp;They come off with lots of elbow grease and a water solulble cleaner. &nbsp;The solution seems to be to clean out the garage in late summer and garage the cars in the fall. &nbsp;I had no idea this was so common.

Wait Griswold
2003 XC70

[AWD*V70XC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wgriswold @ Feb. 21 2004,21:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I live in lake Tahoe, one of the enviornmentally cleaner areas in the US.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
O YEA, who are you kidding http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif have you got big high filters around your State-line to stop the muck from everyone else. http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif but, on a serious note do you believe you live in a clearner area/State and who gives you these results.

Any of you guys on the other side of the World that know the Europe/Africa area might like to know that the Britsih cars get a good dusting from the Sahara a couple of times a year, how many miles is that, and that&#39;s only the stuff we can see??? While the air in the country is cleaner than the city, where is the cleanest air?

[Mr_Westlake]

krs&#33; You can relax, for what I know the hood is made of aluminum. And Volvo XC is a very well built and protected car. &nbsp;
/Mr_Westlake

[Raynald]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mr_Westlake @ Feb. 21 2004,16:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">... You can relax, for what I know the hood is made of aluminum. ...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>Hood in aluminium? Tailgate in fiberglass? http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Seriously, never too late.to learn new things http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[wgriswold]

&quot;O YEA, who are you kidding &nbsp; have you got big high filters around your State-line to stop the muck from everyone else. &nbsp; &nbsp; but, on a serious note do you believe you live in a clearner area/State and who gives you these results.&quot;

I think that what you are talking about is baseline polution that affects everyone and even that varies from place to place. &nbsp;That said, Lake Tahoe is subject to some of the most stringent enviormental controls in the US. &nbsp;There is certainly no point source polution from factories, etc. and no problems from an industrial past. &nbsp;So, I would not expect the paint to suffer from polution damage in my driveway.

Come visit us for a personal inspection. &nbsp;It is a wonderful resort area.

Wait Griswold

[krs]

Thanks for all the advice, will look into the &#39;elbow grease&#39; solution. Will post back when temparature allows me to work on it &#33;&#33;&#33; Will look into clay bars and wax products

Thanks once again http://xc70.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

[Hiro's XC]

A lot of the iron particles are from the brakes. Aggressive braking will cause a lot more &quot;fallout&quot; They stick when the paint is wet. Out old M3 (E30) with aggressive racing brakes would literally RUST if the car got wet. The sides would be RED from the metallic pad and rotor material (white car). We tried to keep it dry or wash it often.