Awd systems.

[ifnt420]

I'm just curious if the AWD system on the Subaru Forester is the same as the XCs?

From the Subaru website:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Manual transmission models have a viscous-coupling locking center differential. Automatic transmission models have an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch. 2.5 XS and 2.5 XT models have a limited-slip rear differential.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

My question, what is an electronically managed continously variable transfer clutch? is that the same idea as the Haldex system on the XC70?

And the VC locking center differential, is that the same as the older V70XC except it's permanent AWD becuase its &quot;locked&quot;.

And some interesting comments about Volvo AWD.

[jkochis]

http://www.beat-the-road.com/

2003 and 2004's use this AWD and possibly some 2002's.

Nope.

VW
Audi
Bugatti
Skoda
Seat

[littlewaywelt]

Subarus with manual use vc systems, but the split is 50-50 for normal driving where Volvo is 100-0 until the fronts start to slip.
Subarus with autos use electronic systems, but the split remains 50-50.

I went shopping for Subarus with my mother in law two weeks ago and my brother has one. &nbsp;While not nearly as luxurious as a Volvo XC, they will cover 95% of the same terrain.
The new Forrester received the highest scores in all categories and is probably as safe as any Volvo ever built, accding to NHTSA.

[Big]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (jkochis @ Oct. 23 2003,08:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.beat-the-road.com/[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I notice the site says: &quot;Off-road. - Instant activation with high torque transfer for maximum traction. Alternative, separate off-road mode (switch) to lock the coupling.&quot;

An off-road mode would be nice. There's a little slip as the rear wheels react on steep, loose ground. Haven't tried Haldex in snow yet but it works well on moderate off-pavement excursions.

[kayaking]

Real interesting.
I'm sooooo curious as to what winter traction situations will actually be like...(my first year owning this vehicle).
Isn't there some information on this site about some clubs or organizations that are using the xc70 for the first time this year in off road (ski area?) conditions? Does anyone remeber this? Or maybe I saw it on the corporate site?

[SpudRacer]

Mas71 has been planning to do some serious testing of the VC vs. Haldex systems once the snow is sufficient for testing, with video for all to judge the results.

What do you say Mas71? &nbsp;Is it time yet?

Tom

[hrd_rok]

my 2 cents,

i thought xc70 went 90/10 to 50/50 , not all the way to 100/0

re the haldex in snow, i live @ 1100 m in a snow belt, and the haldex awd is awesome, i did a few reverse uphill snowbank climbs just to see how far into the bank i could get,

i jammed out before the car the car gave up, &nbsp;so no worrys,

h_r

(and no dstc)

[mas71]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SpudRacer @ Oct. 25 2003,01:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Mas71 has been planning to do some serious testing of the VC vs. Haldex systems once the snow is sufficient for testing, with video for all to judge the results.

What do you say Mas71? *Is it time yet?

Tom[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
We're getting there, however, the snow I wrote about is just about gone, but more is to come I'm sure!

/Magnus

[kayaking]

I think the engagement of all wheels in reverse is more &quot;locked-up&quot;...yes ? no?
I really think a true &quot;lock-up&quot; mode would be awesome....but then again, I haven't really tested the existing '04 system for its reliability and grip.

[William]

Volvo's Haldex system is a split of 90-95 front and 5-10% rear until slippage occurs.

When slippage does occur it only takes one seventh of a comple turn of the wheel for power to be transferred. *Volvo's R Models are even quicker in their transfer of power. *For comparison... the next closest competitor to Volvo in the speed of transfer of power is the BMW X5... which takes one complete rotation of a wheel before power is transferred.


William