No, I probably should have.
Kersti
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No, I probably should have.
Kersti
'08 Oyster Gray XC70 DSTC Front/Rear Park Assist, Rear 12V.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Low Tide @ Feb. 18 2003,18:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">3)PA-300, 4x74 Watt amp exists (price unknown)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
PA-300 is approx. euro 370.- in the Netherlands (@ the dealer)
Complete 10 speaker set (for HU-613/PA-300 with three way system in front door) is approx. euro 900.- (@ the dealer)
In NL the AUDIMAX (HU-813 + PA-300) comes standard with the 11 premium speakers. (If I'm not mistaken: you can save some bucks in NL by ordering the HU-813 + PA-200 with 9 high performance speakers.)
I don't have the audio brochure at hand so these are ballpark prices and do include labour....
2008 V70 2.4 Classic Sports Edition
Kersti et all-
Another update. According to the FDC, they were "instructed" by VCNA that the "RETAILER" would contact those of us interested in the audio upgrades to discuss installation at OSD pricing in the brochure. There was no further comment.
The numbers the Pico gave (THANKS! are in line with the FDC pricing (roughly).'
Just a confirmation too- The PA-200/ +8 upgraded speakers is priced at $200 including labor for MY03 OSD delivery.
Pico, if you have a chance, can you take a look at the brochure and post any additional specs? I am going to check with my "RETAILER" about the US OSD pricing.
Kersti, with FDC deferring to VCNA, I think that it is more important for those interested to get something a little more specific from our OSD agents at this point. It is important to point out that there is no assertion as to whether the FDC can/will still perform the install or whether the "process" simply needs to involve the retailer rather than customer directly. The answer also does not imply that a US install is required for these options. Closer- but not definative by any means.
Current Volvos
2012 XC70, OSD, Twilight Bronze/Espresso
2008 C70, OSD, Celestial Blue/Cream Sovereign
Former Volvos
2009 XC70 Oyster/Black
2006 S60R Black Sapphire/Nordkap
2003 XC70, OSD, Ash/Espresso
2000 S40, Ice White/Black
My dealer all along discouraged any options they could do from being done at FDC. I had to beg to get the rear spoiler and reversing radar done at the factory. So the question is-
Is there an advantage to factory installation over dealer if the price is the same?
Kersti
'08 Oyster Gray XC70 DSTC Front/Rear Park Assist, Rear 12V.
Assuming that the dealer installed options are the same price and that the warranty is attached to the 4/50K US warranty, then I do not see much difference- that assumes though that the quality of the install is the same and that there are no hidden charges. I am definately not willing to pay more than the OSD price for an option I requested from my retailer. That being said, I would prefer that the work be done at the FDC.
Current Volvos
2012 XC70, OSD, Twilight Bronze/Espresso
2008 C70, OSD, Celestial Blue/Cream Sovereign
Former Volvos
2009 XC70 Oyster/Black
2006 S60R Black Sapphire/Nordkap
2003 XC70, OSD, Ash/Espresso
2000 S40, Ice White/Black
Kertsi:
My understanding of FDC installation vs. Dealership installation is that the FDC installation provides a new car warranty of 50K/4yrs for any accessory they add/install whereas the dealership can/will only provide a 1 yr Volvo accesory warranty (not sure about labor costs).
My position is to get most if not all my accessories installed at FDC. Only as a last resort will I defer to having the dealership add accessories.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kersti @ Feb. 19 2003,06:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So the question is-
Is there an advantage to factory installation over dealer if the price is the same?Kersti[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Warranty issues notwithstanding, I would always take a factory install during build over a dealer install. QA during the factory build should be better so (theoretically at least) long-term reliability should be higher.
MY2002 - V70XC
Nautic Blue/Graphite
Okay- here is the definative link on the MY03 Audio options available for order, along with specs and all the related info you will need. Its a PDF doc, and printing page 8,11,12 will give you the pertinent XC70 info.
http://sc2.vcc.m.volvocars.se/bilder...udio/audio.pdf
Now, let's just get the US dealers to acknowledge that we are trying to help them. When the orders are placed, the emphasis on the exact WORDS used means a lot to the customer. Premium, High Performance, Performance- those subtle differences mean different things to the factory. Everything shouldn't simply be called premium. It can lead to things getting dropped from the order form....
Current Volvos
2012 XC70, OSD, Twilight Bronze/Espresso
2008 C70, OSD, Celestial Blue/Cream Sovereign
Former Volvos
2009 XC70 Oyster/Black
2006 S60R Black Sapphire/Nordkap
2003 XC70, OSD, Ash/Espresso
2000 S40, Ice White/Black
Low Tide:
Your persistent research into the Audio Biology is a valuable piece of the 'puzzle'. Many thanks.
This will hopefully allow me to understand why the +$1000 for the HU-603->HU-803 upgrade. On the face of it it appears to be related to upgrading to 4-disc CD changer, possibly better speakers(kinda doubt this though) and Dolby Surround Sound Logic. The $1000 upgrade price on reflection appears rather absorbent. The big appeal to me was the *in dash* 4-CD changer. The remote located 6 and 10-CD changers didn't meet my requirements. I only wish the CD changer could read/play MP3 CDs.
I'm no audio technical expert and have the HU-801 in our S80 and like it's sound reproduction very much. My sales person and Jason(OSD/VCNA) recommended the HU-803 and was subsequently pursuaded
Regards -- Barry Sharp
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Current: MY2012 XC70 T6/Twi Bronze/Espresso Brown/Polestar/Platinum/BLIS/Tech/ABL/Scuff Plates/Front&Rear cameras
Traded 2011 C30 R-Design
Son's '01 S60 2.3L T5,Maya Gold,96Kmi
Son's '03 XC70 Platinum Green (OSD)
Daughter#1 2011 XC60
Daughter#2 2010 XC90
SOLD '86 745 GLE 6-Cyl-Turbo Diesel,Graphite,255Kmi
SOLD '03 XC70 to my son
SOLD '03 XC70, '04 S60R, '07 S60R
If you want my opinion. I am expecting the HU-613 with the High-performance speaker/amp upgrade. I am still tempted to go for the HU-803. I understand that it can be upgraded at the FDC, but waiting for a confirmation.
I have listened to both, and they are very similar as base systems. The HU-803 at $1000 is a leap, but if you subtract the $200 for the OSD upgrade on the HU-613, you are left with $800 for the extra speakers in the dash, CD changer and the PLII processor. I suspect that the changer will account for about $400 of that. The center channel acts to widen the soundstage and give some depth to the range. It is a pretty small speaker though. The PLII DSP adds depth (whether accurate or not) to both the front woofers and the rear pillar tweeters. I think the most noticable difference is in the perception of a complete sound stage.
So long as the speakers are upgraded and the amp added to the HU-613, there is not a lot of immediate difference. Both are pretty powerful systems. If you want the centre addition and the wider soundstage + the changer, then the $800 is well worth it. I am still divided, but trying to work through the options. For me and for a couple of others (ie Kersti) the HU-613 upgrade was for some reason not added to the order- or at least single out as an option. That is the reason for the research and the extended attempt to bring clarity to the topic here for future OSDer's and special order people alike.
There is a real difference in semantic marketing description by the dealers here in the US and what the factory calls its specific options... differences yes. I still am not sure exactly who is right, but the literature clears a lot up.
Anyway, I hope it helps this forum.
Current Volvos
2012 XC70, OSD, Twilight Bronze/Espresso
2008 C70, OSD, Celestial Blue/Cream Sovereign
Former Volvos
2009 XC70 Oyster/Black
2006 S60R Black Sapphire/Nordkap
2003 XC70, OSD, Ash/Espresso
2000 S40, Ice White/Black
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